ACT I
The Body/Mind Schism (perhaps it’s a
first world problem?)
But it’s dangerous.
Or
Thinking about my
artistic practice
as part of the
discussion of transparency of aesthetics.
Before we even
begin. I love this project, check it out. What do you think?
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The Ghana ThinkTank |
Now, to
begin. Maybe.
Prologue
We (I acknowledge
my world: USA and the generalizations are this mainstream society)
We live in the
Supremacy or Authority of the Mind over the Body,
and the other
binary suggestions that support this schism.
This affects
me.
It devalues most
of the work I do,
the way in which I
do that work.
I believe it limits
our human capacity.
I want to do
something about it.
I dance to do
that. (Create, teach, investigate)
These are some
thoughts. These thoughts are the actions (practices) that are foundational to how I participate in
the world: making work, teaching/learning, being a human
Background: This past Spring, I was reading across
disciplines. (As usual)
Particularly,
these readings came into contact with one another:
Jonathan Miller
Lane, “Towards an Embodied Liberal Arts Education”
And the Dewey essay
we would use for our workshop, “The Problem of the Liberal Arts College.
Along with, “Eye
and Mind” by Maurice Merlau-Ponty
Introduction to
“Creative Arts and Medicine” by Cheryl L. McLean
“Can Poetry Make
Better Doctors” by Joanna Shapiro and Lloyd Rucker
“Reflections on
the humanities in medical eduction” by Martyn Evans
Reading these with
three students for our “Medicine and Humanites” MAP/Independent Study project.
Maile and I came
up with the following Petal Diagram based on the language used in the different
readings/disciplines, that described the mind/body divides.
Here is our Petal
Diagram:
Interlude:
Unpacking my Practice as a series of
aesthetic choices that affect the work
This
(This act of
writing onto the page at this moment in time)
This
(to put into
words, on the page, some notes on the continued explorations of the integration
and coexistence of these (at first glance) binaries. Dualities?
This is how I am
trying to put into words why I make work, use dance, the way I do. To
illuminate the choices I make, the why.
To express my
ideas about a move towards an integration and coexistence of these notions,
rather than an oppositional relationsip.
Ideas about
avoiding the problem of binaries in the first place,
(where inevitably
one becomes more important than the other.)
(How they are
valued in our personal lives, community lives, global existence?)
(How do we give
away power?)
What if we see
them NOT as oppositions.
But rather to find
integration.
AN INTERVIEW:
CELESTE INTERVIEWS CELESTE. WE WILL CALL
THEM ‘CELESTE’ AND ‘ME’
CELESTE: When you
are working on a choreographic project – or just anything for that matter, from
teaching to parenting, from writing to building ensemble – do you think
consciously about these kinds of binaries?
ME: When I am
working
and it is working
(the thinking, the writing, the making, the
teaching/learning),
I am in “flow”, I am moving with ease between
what could be noted as the noted binaries.
I am moving with
ease, and not categorizing when I am where.
I am accessing,
accessing, accessing full capacity of my nervous system (of which the brain is
a part), my sensorial systems, my emotional/spiritual/logical systems etc etc
I feel lucky(?)
blessed(?) rich(?) because I practice/have spent my life practicing living in
these places. I can find fluidity
between e.g. body/mind, logical/intuitive, head/hand.
In a sense, my
training (technical and artistic) has prepared me to be able to do this.
I am comfortable
(well, not terrified…) to be in those spaces.
CELESTE: What do
you mean “not terrified”?
ME:
Well, I don’t want
to suggest that is always easy, or “feels good”, or you know. It’s hard.
I get frustrated, frightened, tense – but I can keep accessing all these
different ways of thinking. The word
thinking bothers me. By thinking I
include thinking in and through the body, not just a head trip. But I encounter so many people who are
uncomfortable when they are asked to think in their bodies, be in their
bodies. Some dismiss the embodied as
non-essential, unreliable, not the Real Stuff.
After Jonathan Miller-Lane’s keynote at Grinnell, (Jonathan is the
author of “Towards and Embodied Liberal Arts Education) After the keynote he
was swarmed by students and faculty, so interested to know more. However, there were the nay sayers. One student said, “Well, if you are into that
sort of thing…” “That sort of
thing.” That is an oppositional/dismissive
stand I have encountered over and over and over for so many years.
CELESTE: I know
that you have developed many techniques and tools for helping people into their
embodied thinking, and that that is the purpose of this writing you are trying
to do. But before we talk about that,
tell me more about why you think we need to access all the petals on your Petal
Diagram?
ME: It is about resources. When one door closes another opens, or when
the door closes a window opens. If I
can’t figure something out by approaching it through one means, I can use a
different kind of thinking to approach it.
This is why I love studying outside of my field – immersing myself in
Evolutionay Biology for example, or Economic Theory. I just read an interview with playwright AinGordon and he talked about the amazing things that happen when people move
outside of their discipline/speciality.
He was talking about problem-solving with people bringing their unique
perspectives from their disciplines:
“A lot of it has
been about making the disciplines deal with each other, making the disciplines
offer to each other the knowledge that they have in their specificity and
showing how it applies to someone else, and how it expands the thinking of
people in other disciplines to hear the tools and terminology used to solve the
same problems.”
When trying to
come to agreement, Gordon said, “Wait a minute, this is going wrong because
we’re trying to all agree on it. We don’t have to agree. We have to jump off
each other’s investigation and refract it and add another way of
investigation.”
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Veanne Cox in A Disaster Begins, written and directed by Ain Gordon. Photo by Jason Gardner |
I love this
idea. It is not necessarily that I want
us all to “agree”, but I want to be present as you try and problem solve using
your tools. Because then I learn more
ways to think about things. And I want
to share the tools I have about the multiple options I have for thinking
(embodying) because I believe they are an under utilized resource in most
lives. Due to our public education
system that has systematically removed these kinds of thinking from our education.
CELESTE:
(Interrupting. CELESTE doesn’t want ME
to go off on the State of Education in the US.
A topic she knows Me will go on and on about)
You don’t mean
this just in a surface way, do you? You
talk about “choreographic thinking” as a skill that can be mined, nurtured and
developed.
ME: Yes, there is
this great book, “Thinking in Four Dimensions” that devotes itself to the
notion of choreographic thinking as a very specific means of intellectual
engagement (embodied). In order to take
seriously (though laughing is serious business), to take seriously, to value
that Intuition (for example, one Petal) intuitive thinking, is a real and viable
Thing, and we have to do more than just have a momentarily intuitive moment and
be done with it. We need to be in
situations – I prefer improvisation and composition as the tool to manufacture
those situations – where we get to practice, reflect and build that skill, in
this case “intuition”. I think every
petal in the Petal Diagram takes time to develop as a skill. We are perhaps over trained in, say, Logical
thinking and less trained in Intuitive; more trained in Concrete and less
trained in Abstract.
CELESTE: This
shows up in your performance work. Is
this part of your “non-narrative narrative” notion?
ME: Yes. I create work to function on conscious and
subconscious levels. But, as an
audience, if you are not used to hanging out consciously in that subconscious
stratosphere you may be frustrated by a piece that is saying, “Here. Take this image. Let it explore itself in and of you. Be
comfortable in no “right or wrong” interpretation.” I do have very specific intent in the
creation of each moment of my work; from the individual words to the way the
gestures line up with those words, with intonation, vocal and body choices. I
want to communicate the ideas that I set out to investigate, but like Gordon
talks about – what is interesting to me is if I lay out a set of ideas (through
movement, text, sound and imagery) and the audience brings all the layers of
themselves to those ideas and sees something new, brings their own meaning to
the experience. So in the combination of
artist/audience, in the covenant that the artist and audience make with one
another, something that neither one could make on their own, happens.
CELESTE:
“Covenant” is the
word that Bob Leonard used for this artist/audience agreement, isn’t it?
ME: Yes. I used to say the “contract” between artist
and audience, but I like “covenant.”
CELESTE:
This is a lot to
digest for today. Do you want to finish
out with anything? Tangential or not?
ME:
Two things.
One: Scientist
Neils Bohr credits his insight into designing the model of the atom that we use
today with his study of cubism. “Bohr’s discerning conviction was that the invisible world of the electron was
essentially a cubist world.” “As Bohr
said, ‘When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry.’
Ordinary words couldn’t capture the data.”
So he turned to cubism to help him out, because “cubism shatters the
certainty of the object.”
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Alexander Calder |
ME: I can’t wait
to read more about the “Ghana ThinkTank”.
Giving voice to the third world problem-solver who is successful in solving
problems in their community, and asking for their response to solving a first
world problem. Could the first world be
humble enough to realize not only do they not have all the answers, but our
solutions are often misguided and inept.
CELESTE: Your
eyes have that far away look, now what?
ME: I am thinking about Joanna Russ’ “How To Suppress
Women’s Writing”.
Which is a funny,
sarcastic book not only about women as suppressed writers, but marginalized
people in general. Which is a phrase that has been coming up in our conversations, "voice for the voiceless"
CELESTE:
Okay. You need to stop for now. Go brush Schmoo.
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